Tuesday, July 19, 2005

another vote for kolab

riddel recommended kolab to jorge and i have to agree.

why? because i'm using it and depending on it and it hasn't let me down yet. i have a kdemail.net account that uses kolab2, as do many other kde developers. the company that i've been consulting to for the last several months is also running kolab2 and they rely on it's calendaring and mail services to keep their business running. what's more, they are an IT services company and are starting to roll out kolab2 to several of their customers based on the success they've had with it. cheaper than exchange and it integrates with outlook, web browsers and kontact for groupware =) spam filter, virus scanning, web admin ... heck, it's even got server replication built in!

as for installation ... if you're running debian it's a 10 minute job to set up using the provided debian packages. throwing kolab on top of kubuntu, for instance, is a dream. if you aren't running debian, it's pretty much the same set of steps but it takes more wall clock time as the install script has to compile the packages from source.

3 comments:

leo said...

Posted on Jorge's blog:

Unfortunately I can't find it in Ubuntu or Debian, and I'm not about to try those RPMs.
I'll give it a shot once someone packages it for Debian/Ubuntu.
Posted by: jorge | July 19, 2005 11:19 AM

There are debian packages right on the Kolab site, but I can't blame Jorge for not finding them. The Kolab site isn't exactly well organized.

Steps to download Kolab:

1. Go to kolab.org
2. Click download
3. Click packages
This is where this should end! At this point there should be a list of packages to download for different distributions. Instead we have the following.
4. Click Download servers
5. Click "Fruit Salad" or "erfrakon" or any other similarly confusingly named items. At first I didn't even know these were the names of mirrors, thinking they were the name of releases.
6. Navigate the file structure of some random server. Click "Server", click "Release", click "kolab-server-2.0", click "ix86-debian3.0"
6. Now we're presented with a ton of packages (probably over 50), with no indication of what to download.

Compare to the Hula website.
1. Go to hula.org
2. Click Download (down the page a bit)
3. Click Ubuntu (or whatever other distro)
4. Follow the line by line instructions.

This is why no-one knows about kolab, it's just offputting to have to invest a bunch of brainpower just to download and install the thing. I'm not trying to be an asshole and come down on the Kolab team, but this is a real issue.

Aaron J. Seigo said...

@leo

agreed. the kolab team is their own worst enemy when it comes to marketing.

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